I have seen looking locally to source 1 inch stainless steel tubing but have had no luck. I know very minimal about metal and its properties/strength and came across these 2 types of tubing that I'm guessing are the same or similar? I can get this 1 inch OD (.083 wall thicknes) mechanical tubing at a 20 ft length for $15 and (.120 wall thickness) for $20. My question would be if this would work instead of the stainless steel tubing?
Any help I could get from all you would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks all!
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The properties are different, but keeping steel tubing that is as thick or thicker should be OK.
Ensure that you get smooth tubing and keep it smooth and close to circular. Keeping it rust free in the long run is required to keep your machine lasting longer. Basically oil lightly regularly (think keep a small cloth and put a little oil on it and just wipe the tubing regularly. I like to use silicon based liquid lubricant. Let it dry before use, or wipe it after use so it will have time to dry and be clean.
Fighting rust is something that any steel based machinery must do. Often non-moving surfaces/areas are painted, bearing surfaces are cleaned and lubricated.
Whatever decision you make will not be wrong. Just a bit more or less maintenance as long as it is strong enough for the task.
When looking for Stainless Steel tubing - make sure you are trying to source Tubing and Not Pipe. 1" SS Pipe will have an O.D. that is about 5thousands too big for the printed parts. Tubing is definitely more expensive because it has much higher tolerances - ie: it is very flat, very round and very straight. Add in Stainless to the mix and the price goes up. It was the most expensive part of my build (full sheet LR2). I think I paid around $180 for 2 7 sections that I found in the drops pile of one of my local steel yards. I also got 304L Seamless Stainless Steel 1" OD tube with a .250" wall thickness. This stuff is fairly heavy but VERY rigid (especially since the longest pieces are the X-Rails and they are only 59" long. This https://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=&step=4&showunits=inches&id=312&top_cat=1 is the same tubing I used.
You can definitely go thinner but the wider the table (X Axis) the more flex you will have. I would suggest going .125" wall thickness for a 4 wide cutting surface.
The metal that you are showing in the pics seems to be to be a very low carbon steel and will potentially have a lot of flex to it and I would question the roundness of it (especially at longer lengths). The cost really has me concerned about the quality of the metal being used. For comparison, 1" EMT Conduit at Home Depot sells for about $20 for 20 and that stuff you can bend if you look at it funny.
If you cant find SS Tubing locally, then check out OnlineMetals or MetalsDepot. Both come decently recommended but are more expensive then local sourcing. I have also found that not all local steel yards stock or order SS Tubing so you might have to shop around. If you ask for it, make sure they are working with 1" OD Tubing and not 1" OD pipe though, as one of the yards I was dealing with didnt realize there was a difference in the actual OD (which is a lot of situations doesnt matter, but it does for us).
Depends on what you want to do, the accuracy you expect, and most importantly, the size of your build.
In the end do I think it matters, no, will I promise anything, nope. I have been getting a lot of flack lately for not having exact specs up so people can directly compare machines. I think you can see the smallest thing makes a difference, 10% less rigid pipe, maybe 1" shorter more than makes up for that, or maybe that ten percent is the difference between 0.1mm and 0.11mm accuracy and that means nothing to you (it shouldnt).
Im just saying, at that price, it is probably isnt the best steel out there. A513 is a fairly brittle steel (if I remember correctly - meaning it tends to break more easily then other steels. Another thing to consider is the surface finish. With SS, you dont have mill scale but you will with other types of steel. It may not be an issue for the LR but its something to keep in mind. It will also rust on you, even just sitting around, there is enough moisture in the air to cause it to rust. You can get around this by stripping off the mill scale and then painting it, but that another variable in the accuracy of your machine. Honestly, it all depends on what you want to get out of the LR. If you can get the steel you need to $20 bucks, its worth a try. If it does t work out for you, then you are only out $20 and can just replace it is something else.
What website are you getting that info from, because if their prices are that good, I will order my steel from them (I do welding on the side).
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